20 thoughts on “Ukiah school boards votes for reopening with social distancing in place; school begins Aug. 17

  1. Here’s a quote you forgot to mention:

    “When we die we just don’t wake up, we go to heaven and everything is fine. ”
    -Trustee Diaz, Ukiah Unified School Board

    Please watch the school board meeting yourself and see the comments made from our school board. Many are appalling and call to question their qualification for making this decision.

    Please also note they cut off the Teacher Association president and switched the public comment time from 3 minutes to 2 with no prior warning.

    Some of their comments suggest teachers will be bad at teaching if we are scared. Another suggests they are lucky to only be teaching half the class and we can “play with remote learning”. Another suggests “we are so sorry that we are putting teachers outside their comfort zone”. And one joke by Nelson (In reflecting on his own experience), suggests teachers have no way of knowing they have covid when they wake up, it could be a hangover.

    Please watch the board meeting and consider the school board’s position and if it’s really in the best interest of our community.

    • Please go to Merriam-Webster’s website and look up the word, “hypocrite.”

      Compare your support for Black Lives Matter “peaceful protests” sans social distancing with your criticism of comments from the school board.

  2. I am a retired school superintendent from Ohio. I believe that the USD plan to reopen is putting all of our children and teachers at risk. The loss of one life is not worth the reopening. I do not like the idea of postponing school and I understand the pressure that parents are putting on the school district but someone has to stand up and take the heat in order to protect the young people in our community.

    Those most affected by keeping schools closed are those who come from homes with no or very limited income and those children whose parents are not capable to supervising their learning. I understand that. Another alternative must be found for these children. It will require creative thinking and altering how resources are used. It will also take time.

    • You are a dangerous kook who aims to permanently injure children. Your Piled high and Deep (Ph.D.) is meaningless when rational analysis is dispensed with. I would suggest what you advocate rivals or exceeds the trauma inflicted on a child by a child molestor. Who in our community will stand up for our child to protect them from the likes of YOU?

      “The loss of one life is not worth the reopening.” Easy for you to say, since you are already a sociopath. I’d much prefer not creating an entire cohort of sociopathic kids through dehumanization ala what you promote.

      “The loss of one life is not worth the reopening.” “The loss of one life is not worth the ‘right to choose’.” “The loss of one life is not worth further lockdown.”

      Life is valuable when it has meaning. For you, quantity is far more important than quality.

    • @J.C Tolalenko
      Did you fall off your rocker? Your anger is amusing, you are your own worst enemy. I think you forgot to take your crazy pills today. What’s up with your irrelevant rambling about child molestors when this article is about Covid-19 and our community? I want to call you a disgrace but I think your problem is ignorance. Either way, you crazy and are a lost cause. Ramble away, hopefully no one but the voices in your head take you serious.

    • Anonymous Coward aka “You crazy JC”:

      Aww, did I trigger you?

      My reference to child molestors is hardly irrelevant. I’m calling “people” like you equal to or even WORSE than child molestors, because of the active harm you’re demanding for kids. Most molestation involves trauma less than the damage your hysteria is insisting on. Therapy isn’t going to suffice to repair the permanent damage your cult claims is “best” for the children. Organized, enduring, systemic dehumanization is the foundation for your “plan” for schools.

    • You’re getting one warning. Our commenting policy says no personal insults or attacks, or trolling. Reign it in or we’ll block you.

    • Propagandist-in-Chief:

      Oh noes, “one warning.” Apparently, you think I am an amateur who doesn’t know much about the Internet. How many IP ranges are you up to blocking?

      It’s become perfectly clear through this assault on America that the media is, indeed, the Enemy of the People, considering how nearly all “journalists” (sic) are but mouthpieces for lying government kooks. You claim you’re “different” than the Ukiah Daily Urinal, etc., but are, in fact, the UDJ’s residue under a new banner.

      You totally ignore the frequent, repeated attacks on those of us who don’t subscribe the Cult of COVID, including the comment attacking me as “crazy” above. Typical hypocrisy of the professional liar class (wrongly claimed to be “journalists”).

      War is being waged on America and the majority of the American people right now. Don’t be surprised when some of us object, loudly. Your inability (?) to comprehend what the Cult of COVID is doing to real, live human beings must be a genuine example of “White Privilege” (or is it Jewish Privilege?). That you are “outraged” by my posts, but not the catastrophic damage even just here in Mendocino County is very telling.

      You pretty much have two options: 1) you can shut down the comment sections here, or, 2) you can respect that people are JUSTLY angry at the war being waged on us, and butt out of these issues in which you hypocritically censure only one side. Choosing the first option would conclusively demonstrate you are just another System tool, as with most media.

  3. Thank you Mendocino Voice! These are OUR children, OUR teachers and OUR community that needs to continue to SIP in order to get our numbers down. Only a Board who is out of touch with this reality makes a decision like this! Support Teachers for Safe and Healthy Schools for Students, Staff and Community!

    • Child molestors are proving less dangerous than COVID-19(84) cult members who want to create an entire cohort of permanently disabled children.

      I’m not going to just sit here and stay silent as you kooks aim to literally injure children because of your hysteria.

  4. These jerks hold a distance meeting yet plan for our kids to meet in person? Did you hear these fools talk? I’m not sure all of them ever went to school. To send your kid child to school now is pure madness!

    • I’m glad you volunteered to:

      1) provide day care for the working parents of school-age kids;
      2) provide alternative income to working parents who can’t work due to lack of child care;
      3) provide lifelong mental health therapy for kids injured due to your hysteria.

  5. Open the schools full time. The downside (?) isn’t close to the upside. Do you even consider what you are doing to these kids by jerking them around like this? They are strong, young and need the opportunity to succeed and to not be hindered by this scare tactic hindering them.

    • @tcrofoot In order for children to succeed, they need to be alive. Schools closed previously with no cases in our county and now (schools) are expected to open with cases rising and evidence now shows it effects children and when it doesn’t, they are often asymptotic carriers. Are you saying that you would be okay with even one child dying of Covid-19? You mentioned “the downside isn’t close to the upside” yet putting even one child at risk doesn’t seem like the answer to me. In addition, why should a teacher jeopardize their life? If they have 24 students (middle school and high school teachers can see as many as 160 students) they will be 24 times more likely to be exposed. And let’s say one teacher does get it, all 24 of their students will be quarantined and those 24 student’s parents, siblings, other close family members, etc. will have to be quarantined as well, being without work and pay for at least 2 weeks- if they are they lucky ones. Why would we put any person at risk when there is already a solution-distance learning. Distance learning will be occurring in many counties throughout the state and country and will allow students to learn and teachers to teach in safe environments, where they will only be exposed to people within their household.

    • So-called “Teacher”:

      In order for life to have meaning, human beings must have REAL social interaction on an ongoing (preferably daily) basis. “Life” without living is not life.

      If you really are a teacher, you’ve sure got your union talking points down. Are you hysterical, or do you just want to have a longer paid vacation?

      The damage to children’s social and mental development is obvious and profound. That damage far exceeds the rational risk from SARS 2 Your refusal to accept that marks you as either a fool or a sociopath. If you think so-called “distance learning” is suitable for everyone, you are obviously lacking in understanding of human development. I say this as someone who works in IT, and did my Master’s program all-online. I can function just fine with online education – the majority of people, especially kids, CANNOT. I’ve seen it up close and personal. Online is a substitute, not a replacement.

  6. I am happy for my child to be going back to school since they need that social interaction and structure. I am willing to take risks because if we let this virus win and do everything that is required who knows what our mental health conditions will be like. I haven’t stopped working since this pandemic started and it’s extremely hard to be working full time, being a parent and a teacher.

    • God bless you and your kid! Rational analysis tells us that your child will be fine. And be sure that your child knows why they were denied months of social interaction with their friends/peers already – compliments of government and “experts.” A good lesson for them to ALWAYS question what they’re told.

  7. I can no longer laugh at the lunacy of “educators” who hysterically shriek about “the virus, the virus,” since the permanent injury to our nation’s kids simply is not funny. I view any “educational professional” who advocates further suppression of childrens’ social development in the same light as a child molestor; the latter often does less damage.

    The hybrid model is a good compromise, allowing kids at least some essential social interaction – real social interaction, not crap online – with their friends/peers. Alas, the Lysenko “scientists” want to further dehumanize schoolkids with the COVID-19(84) excuse. As many pediatricians have pointed out – if you need an “expert” to tell you what should be obvious to someone with an IQ above room temperature – children’s FACE-TO-FACE social interaction is essential, nearly as much so as food. The risk of contracting SARS 2 simply is far, far less risk than creating a permanently socially- and mentally-disabled cohort of kids. [or is that what these “experts” actually want?].

  8. Wow I have been reading the back and forth here in UUSD and it really reminds me of what is going on down here in SOCAL. I lived in Ukiah, but that was in the 80’s and even back then I found the school board to be somewhat removed from reality. This takes the cake.

    In Orange County our school board did the same run around. However, the various school districts were independently allowed to decide to resume school online, for now. The numbers are staggering, the contagion is extreme. If all of the kids are ok but contagious what happens to their adults when they bring this disease home? How are the kids taken care of then? One must remember that this is a temporary situation with vaccinations looking promising within the next year. We can all hold out just a little while longer.

    Death is a forever thing, a year of wobbly education won’t kill anyone. For those of you who deny science in the name of religion, you simply aren’t taking God’s gifts and using them in an intelligent manner. Stop being such idiots! We are smart and we have ways of temporarily getting around this virus, we need to use them. Distancing is the only answer. Listen to the experts not the jr. grade politicians on the school board. They are not experts. Listen to the medical experts, not your political leanings that can end up killing people.

    I loved Ukiah and wish everyone the best as I will be watching closely what happens here, with my our teacher parents of our 8 year old granddaughter, all attending different school districts. When you think of tracking down every possible contagious person all three of these people will be exposed to if school resumes in person this Fall, and then bringing it home to us grandparents? It’s quite daunting. Not the way to do this. Simply said, the more times you are exposed the bigger likelihood that you will not be able to fight off the virus and you will become very ill. This is not a joke.

    My friend who works at the local mortuary says she has never seen anything like this and it scares her to death. That’s a lot for someone to say who faces the dead every day.

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